Thursday, March 12, 2009

Rock the 1st Amendment - these two had a CONVERSATION!

10:41 AM m: Hi, Goodbye and God Bless; you show 'away' status.
B: i think it permanently has me set that way
at least on my work computer...how have you been doing?
10:42 AM m: OK - sent packing by the institutional guys at Richardson on Waterview. No place to attend currently, how about you?

...time passes...
10:47 AM m: Apropos of next comment, I'm afraid if I attend where you are, I'll bring more trouble with me you can stand. I stayed at M (churchname) to face controversy - I left when it didn't face me. Lord said 'mark those who cause division.' I can't call that shot, BUT I can call 1 Cor 5:5.
10:49 AM B: we're doing well, visited with M over the weekend
D stayed over for a few days...he really enjoyed his vist
we're doing well at Lavon...we have a meeting scheduled for the first week of April...
10:50 AM but it looks like I'll be in Amarillo and Lubbock that entire week
[URL deleted]
m: "go to the righteous and say to him, 'it shall be well with thee.'"
B: you can click on the meeting to see the topics each day
10:51 AM I would like to be there for the Humanism study, but I'll get them recorded
10:52 AM m: OK... it'll be good to hear about those who 'worship and serve the creature more than the creator,' from others... I'll try to attend publicly.
10:53 AM B: i thought the Waterview group was more open....they weren't welcoming?
10:55 AM m: They had already had problems with stalkers. I documented what happened in a letter to the Eldership. This side of Heaven, I attempt to keep records. see more at [URL deleted]
10:58 AM B: I've found that I need a news fast every now and then... [specifying going without news, not speedy delivery thereof.]
most of the news is depressing because we know what the outcome will be when all of their plans get put in place...we've seen socialism fail before
10:59 AM m: Gmail has a 'settings' setting that specifies https if you need.
B: so I'm trying to do other things...I've tilled up a section of the backyard to plant some food...
11:00 AM and just trying to rearrange the way we live so that we can start paying off more debt and get somewhat self-sufficient
m: glad to hear your South African Aggie training isn't going to waste. T ought to do well if civilization fails... I don't think things are THAT dark.
B: I'm thinking in about 10-15 years, we may want to move to a freeer country
11:01 AM m: freeer than here? everywhere else is worse... this one just failed to start out Utopian perfect.
B: we have more laws than any other country on the planet
m: Nation of laws :-)
11:02 AM B: laws that run counter to liberty
m: Enforcement might be an optimization experiment on use of human judgment.
11:03 AM B: I'm not much for believing in secret conspiracies...but there are several open conspiracies...the Republicans and Democrats both believe that government is the answer
11:04 AM there are several other countries that will let a farmer plant their crops instead of being concerned for a mouse's habitat
m: The Ocean is deeper than top 6 feet, but that's where most of the action is... otherwise, my Masterlock company satisfies RICO every time they put one together.
Other than that, how do you establish the elastic clause without the ICC?
11:05 AM B: [URL deleted]
I was reading that yesterday...it discusses some of that
11:06 AM m: BTW, the RICO language is specific - they have to commit 'criminal' to get arrested.
11:07 AM B: I like to think that language means something and when something is written down in something like the Constitution, it's not meant for special interpretation
but that's how government keeps growing...change the language to fit their whims...and all of a sudden it becomes constitutional
m: Taking an opposing perspective, how many things are not 'of private interpretation?'
11:08 AM B: when there is a clear definition, you can't change it...there are absolutes
if the sky is blue and someone decides that green can sometimes have a shade of blue in it and everyone should accept that the sky is now green....because they were told to do so in a court of law by a judge....
m: I can derive a lot abusable from anything... Masterlock is a problem when I use it attached to a hasp on YOUR door!
11:09 AM B: that's not interpretation...that's changing language to suit a judge's own whim...or congress, or the executive branch
11:10 AM it's nothing new...those in power want more power...all for the "good", of course
m: I use the language 'I resist your language.' I consent to the law that it is good. Casuistry can be attacked as 'obfuscating the law.'
11:12 AM If there are too many laws, selective enforcement is the problem, no matter how many more Congress heaps up on top. Let them make all they want...
B: selective enforcement means that we can be enslaved to the state and they can threaten more...
m: Specifically 'obfuscation the law' is illegal.
B: look at the number of people who were nominated by Obama....
11:13 AM many made the laws and guidelines that the IRS uses...
and they couldn't even keep up...Ron Kirk is a prime example of someone in politics who tried to do something good
m: His DCIA is a public policy guy... do you fear this as National emasculation?
[The opinion offered should be defended as one who views Russian, Chinese, Indian and Myanmar foreign policy things worthy of diplomatic investigation. Myanmar is not Burma - Mynamar is possibly _THE_ WORST government on earth at present. There are those living in the past who call it Burma - I respect their view that the Burmese people own the destiny of that nation. You _have_ to love the people of a country to even _want_ to help them. These unmuzzled national guard-dogs are not soft-hearted - they are seasoned in a Machiavellian furnace of kindness until they cannot lose their temper. The chest thumping and posturing is reserved for political performance.]
B: he donated his speaking fees to charity
11:14 AM yet, he was penalized because he "earned" the fees and is therefore subject to being taxed on them...
even though the money never went through his hands...
the organizations sent the money directly to the charities
m: Ron Kirk didn't keep his head in wealthy company, observed that they didn't pay taxes without observing the exact arrangements under which this is done... he got in TAX trouble for that reason.
11:15 AM B: the idea that the government owns a person is what the entire tax system is based on
11:16 AM you're time belongs to the state and as a result, when you earn something with your time, it's taxed
as Bastiat says, it's just theft
m: The articles of Confederation didn't suffer this failing... I'm teasing you, I still love you bro, but whassup?
11:17 AM B: wasn't the constitutional convention called to modify those articles...not scrap them...
:)
i better get back to work...it's been good hearing from you again
11:18 AM m: You may be right... I'm just looking at a less specialized version of the same picture. It embarrasses me on behalf of God. Stay in Peace?
B: you might want to visit out at J (churchname) sometime too...I know that they are a small group that's out that way.
11:19 AM P was going there Sunday evenings
you bet...take care and enjoy the rest of the week!
m: You too... bye for now.

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